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[TheLastDictator]

Wow, a scathing attack from the 5th.  Although I don't think he (or we) played very well I think that's a bit unfair.

Ryan should have tracked back for the goal and for not doing so is partly responsible for the goal, but with the speed of that particular break I'm not sure even Dave Martin would have caught it and broke it down.  So yes, Ryan should have tracked back, but that's up to the the manager and himself to sort out.  I believe they did, because second half he tracked back a lot more and made a couple of good challenges.  He also played a lot better going forward and had a couple of good runs taking it past 2 or 3 players.  I remember thinking at the time, bloody hell, if he can do this off form I can't wait for him to return to form.  A thought I also had on tuesday night after he scored.  It wasn't his best performance for us, but he needs our backing to get back to his best, which is damn good, maybe his rest due to suspension will help him out!

It wasn't just down to Ryan, the whole team didn't play as well as they can but I thought we was matching them up to the first goal and looked just as likely to score as them.  As fortunes would have it, they scored first, they gained confidence and unfortunately our heads dropped.  

Good points from the game, Richard Avery was superb.  One of his best games for the club, we're lucky to have him and I can't believe nobody has come in for him.  In my opinion he is destined for greatness and I hope we can keep (hang on to) him for at least another season and a half, Princes Park will be better for having him playing there!

Tony Henry also looked good again, as did Ozzy.  Mags also played well in the middle i thought, looked very promising.  

We also had a decent ref for the first time in, well I can't remember how long.  Shame he's not a kent local!

We now have what could be a difficult game next week at home to Aveley, what with our suspension, injuries and weddings.  But those players missing will come back raring to go against Margate on the 12th or in the replay!

My final thought for the boy Hayes.....

Cooome onnnn Ryan You know you're a good player, I know you're a good player, let's start restoring the faith and ripping apart these dodgy southern league full backs like we know you can!

[spike]

When we first signed Ryan I heard through the Slade Green grapevine that although he was a good player, he had a bit of an attitude problem. Having watched him in the latter part of last season and the beginning of this one, I wondered what the hell these people were talking about. The guy looked great and appeared to be an outstanding player. Lately however, I'm beginning to understand what they meant as his head seems to go down far too quickly and he seems to lose concentration. These recent doubts and concerns were brought to a head on Saturday when his lack of effort was, in my opinion, a major contributory factor in Stamford's opening goal. I can forgive people making mistakes, but to just give up and not bother is unacceptable. Okay, I don't expect eveyone to match the superhuman workrate of the reborn Jimmy Carter, but we can't carry passengers, however good they may be. We are not a great side, but when everyone works their socks off and closes down their opponent, we can beat anyone in this division. Ryan is a good player, potentially one of the best at our club. I want to see him in the side and back to the level he was showing early season, but I think he needs to buck his ideas up a bit. At the moment, Dave Martin although perhaps not quite so naturally talented, gets better every week, has a much better attitide and is a far better option. Come on Ryan, prove the Slade Green grapevine wrong.

[Dave T]

I wasn't there on Saturday, but having read TB's notes, I do agree that we have to give the younger players a bit of slack and perhaps encouragement it more helpful that direct criticim.

Like Spike says, I have no doubt that Ryan Hayes is a young player with terrific potential, and having seen some early flashes of just how good he could be, then I'd love to see him in the side for a few more years to come. He clearly will be good enough given the right opportunity (TB), encouragement (us) and application (himself).

If the first two are forthcoming, and the third isn't, then after a reasonable period, people will start to ask questions. My own view is that it's far too early to be asking questions. We need to invest a bit more first.

Come on Ryan, we're all behind you. Show us all what you can do.

Up the Darts!

[Kebabus]

Frustration can cause an over reaction at times and believe me a fan can be as much frustrated as a player manager or director about a bad result so sometimes its a relief (letting off steam!) to post thoughts on a fans forum. If this frustration can be used by the management/players in a positive way by upping performance and showing any doubter that they are wrong, then everyone is happy, if we win we are happy, its as simple as that. When we lose questions arise as to why, lessons should be learned and that is how our squad can grow in stature, learning from certain situations in a game and doing what they are told by the manager.

We all know the level of performance this team is capable of and the key is to reproduce that level on a more consistant basis, those early games when we played with pace and power only being produced now sporadically.

Us fans remain loyal and do try to get behind the team vocally when we can and TB we suffer the same problems as the players, some of us cannot be there every game because of work etc!

Dartford fc is growing in stature again and expectations are growing, take the flack when you get it, have a think and improve and i am sure the posters will do the same, they are the loyal hardcore that shout themselves hoarse!

Its a pleasure supporting the team again, this club and its loyal bunch of fans are moving forward and when there is a poor display expect some flak, thats what fans do! When we win expect much pats on the back but definitely do not ever let those heads go down!

[TREVOR B]

Dangerous things these fancy dress parties, which The 5th and I were attending after the game.

It was touch and go whether we should leave early from the match as the party kicked off at 7.30pm in Chatham, but we stayed to the bitter end then raced home got changed and went partying.

You will note from the time of The 5th's posting 1.55am sunday that he went on line straight from the party and perhaps assumed the characters personality when posting and was still wearing the full costume of the killer from Scream including rubber knife.

Don't put it down to drink he had very little and had I posted at that time of night in my guise as Jack The Ripper with a real large kitchen knife then I might have been even stronger with my comments on just the 1 coca cola I had to drink all night, but I waited until much later Sunday after a good nights sleep.

Photo's are available and if I remember I'll bring them Saturday.

What's Up

[PeteSamson]

Well, Im still away from home, but just logged on and read some comments and Tony's notes.

I said before the game it would be difficult to get a result last Saturday, and with player availability and selection, that seems to be the case, cos even if Stamford didn't play particularly well, it was still going to be a difficult game. I go along with Tony's notes.

Winning games away is never easy either and surely we are still on target for a point a game away.

Keep the faith!

[The 5th Searcher]

Ok Ok my comments may possibly have been a little smidgin bit OTT about Ryan BUT ONLY A LITTLE, he was very poor in this game but then again so was most of the team. It's just the way he strolls around the pitch as though he's not got a care in the world and then starts to blame other players when things go wrong when a lot of the time he's the one thats caused them.

Im not saying that he was completely at fault for our defeat on Saturday because this isn't the case as we had 10 other players on the pitch as well and they all have to accept some responsability.

Jim Carter seemed to put in more effort than Ryan did and Jim didn't come on until the 2nd half AND he was carrying an injury.

To go a whole 90 minutes without the keeper having to do a single thing is just not on certainly at this level. Im not expecting us to go out an stuff every team or even to score in every game BUT you do at least make the keeper work and have to pull off a few saves. Stamfords keeper could well have spent the afternoon at home for all the work he had to do, he probably spent more effort putting his kit on than he did on the pitch.

At least Tony has acknowledged that it was a poor performance from us again and i sincerely hope that we won't have to see to many of these types of performances again this season.

I really do hope that Ryan proves me wrong and he starts to step his game and his effort right up but i honestly think that until he changes his attitude and works for the team and not just for himself then this just won't happen.

At this present time he's certainly not worth his contract, which is a big disappointment because at the end of last season and in the pre-season friendlies he was looking superb.

Is it a case of the fatel contract curse again or is it just a minor blip?

[The Don]

The 5th wrote

At this present time he's certainly not worth his contract

Bit harsh ?? I know its difficult for me to pass comment as I've only made two games this season but I seem to recall people screaming out for the club to sign Ryan up - which the directors did. What I've seen of him he is a quality player with huge potential, he is only a young lad and if moulded properly could be a big player for this club (and maybe worth a few quid one day?). Maybe reading between the lines TB would liked to have rested him a bit more often to keep his competitive streak but doesn't appear to have a big enough squad available week in week out. I know you guys see him playing regularly but I don't believe he has become a bad player overnight. Get behind the players, TB picks the team, if he's not good enough then he aint gonna get in the side !

[The 5th Searcher]

Nobody has said that he's a bad player, but i am saying that he's a lazy player and at times selfish.

And from the performances that i've seen him put in so far this season i personally don't think he's warrented a contract unlike Richard Avery and even Dave Martin who does give his all when he gets to play and fully supporters his team mates both up front and especially in defence.

[spike]

I'm not sure I agree with that. I think Ryan has great potential and could easily go on to be a very good player at a much higher level (hopefully for the Darts), in which case it makes good sense to put him on a contract. To achieve this however, plain and simple, he needs to increase his work rate. There are some players in our squad who will never be in the same class as Ryan, but who work their socks off every time they play. Those sort of players will not attract the same sort of criticism that he has because our expectations are so much lower. When you see the talent that this guy obviously has, its frustrating to see him fail at things that he could so easily put right. People are all different though, so we need to give the lad time to develop and hopefully learn from the manager. If Tony Burman can get the best out of Ryan then I think he'll be a huge asset to our club. As supporters we need to encourage him.

[TheLastDictator]

I agree with Spike, and to save Dave T another post, so does he!  

[Bacton Buoy]

   

[The Duke]

at last something that made me smile about the stamford game !!!!!

on the official site the report said  " after  the darts squandered several chances in the first 20 minutes STAMFORD scored"

he obviously didnt go to the game , bet mickey austin was winding him up cause he didnt get in for half price !!!!!

[Dave T]

at last something that made me smile about the stamford game !!!!!

on the official site the report said  " after  the darts squandered several chances in the first 20 minutes STAMFORD scored"

he obviously didnt go to the game , bet mickey austin was winding him up cause he didnt get in for half price !!!!!

Well, I thought this sort of artistic license was now becoming common place on "official" websites recently. It was lucky we didn't have a website commentary as well. Just think what that might have said?

I agree with Spike, and to save Dave T another post, so does he!  

Saucy git   but of course, he's right!

[spike]

The only reason Dave T agrees with me so often is that he's a very intelligent guy with a vast knowledge of football.