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England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« on: April 27, 2006, 07:10:55 PM »

Crickey another foreigner!! Not sure what to make of it, do we not have an English manager capable of managing OUR country ??? Personally I would have liked to have seen Big Sam take the helm but it seems that the FA have gone totally against public opinion and opted for Flip-flop Scolari. He has pretty good qualifications and is much more passionate that that lemon in charge at the moment BUT he's a bloody foreigner !!! What do you guys make of it ???
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 07:34:24 PM »

As you say he's got a proven record at International level BUT he's certainly not used to the speed of our game and the pace that we play it at.

It just goes to show that the F.A. obviously don't have any faith in our English managers what so ever.

What have the likes of Sam Allerdyce, Alan Curbishley or Martin O'Neill got to do to be offered the job at top level and i bet none of them would be asking for the so called £3million to £5million that Scolari is.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 07:45:42 PM »

reading between the lines it sounds as if the senior england players put the block on mcclaren because they dont like him ,and they dont want sam or curbs because of no european experience.i cant work out why oneil is out of favour at the moment though.
my choice being ever controversial is IAN WRIGHT(imagine his team talks) with his hand picked coaches.  he is one man the players would die for  and would instantly respect but of course my idea is pure fantasy.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2006, 08:10:17 PM »

Or Stuart Pearce and Ian Wright ???!!  :evil:
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2006, 08:32:19 PM »

yes i like it,that would be a great combination. i am not a fan that puts country before club mainly because i think many players use international caps as a means of selling themselves and for many others i just dont think they put any passion in their play.
i have another crackpot idea and whilst i would provide the best ever facilities and conditions for england players i would not pay them a penny for playing or give them a win bonas, it would have to be an honour for them to play and if they dont like it they know what to do.  as for the manager he is contracted for 2 years only and gets paid £500000 per annum and if he dont like he can go and play in the traffic. lets face it if you become england manager you have either earnt money already or you will in your next club job.finally  this means the FA will be awash with money so if a player is injured on duty the FA can bloody well his wages until he is fit to play again.
my white coat is ready and i'm just going back to the nut house now
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2006, 08:39:48 PM »

They're coming to take you away ha ha !!!!!!
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2006, 09:11:24 PM »

I personally don't have a problem with Scolari coming in, other than the fact he doesn't speak English. That is the only problem I see with the role. Curbs, Fat Sam and McClaren aren't experienced enough to deal with a pressure-role like the England job in my opinion.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2006, 11:58:03 PM »

I'm with Gary, I'm not against foreign managers but I do think they should speak the lingo like. 

I don't think Curbs will be good enough for England and I've never been one for Big Sam, don't like him, don't like his style of play and let's face it Scolari probably speaks better English!  My other bone of contention with Big Sam is how did he become a cult hero in England managing a group of foreigners?  Any other manager that compiles a team of imports gets lambasted in the media, Big Sam plays one of the first non English team ever in the premiership and he's a tactical genius! 

Martin O'Neill apart from me hating him(an old Chelsea/Wycombe cup history thing) is a decent manager, but I don't think he'd want it whilst his wife is still ill.  Besides, surely a foreigner is better than a Scot?

Not sure about McClaren, his teams seem to to be more streaky than Danish bacon and not's not good in qualification.  Though they do seem pretty good in the cups.

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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 09:38:46 AM »


Martin O'Neill apart from me hating him(an old Chelsea/Wycombe cup history thing) is a decent manager, but I don't think he'd want it whilst his wife is still ill.  Besides, surely a foreigner is better than a Scot?


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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2006, 01:57:13 PM »

All the time our top clubs are being coached by foreigners, then the national team probably will too. That's basically because the people that make the decision are the same "top" club chairmen like David Dein anyway.

If we (they) won't give the better english managers a chance with our top clubs and keep going for high profile foreign names then what chance do they have of proving themselves at the highest level?

As a Spurs fan, I'd have loved to have seen Curbishley given the job and I think if he was currently managing a bigger side (same for Allardyce, McLaren, Pearce etc) he would have had a better chance of getting the England job.

I'm still not sure that the coach is quite so important at international level anyway. When you get the English squad together, they are so good individually and at their clubs, that I think the coacn simply has to be an excellent motivator rather than a great tactician. That's why I think Allardyce or Pearce (who's been there before with England) would be good for the job.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2006, 02:44:05 PM »

If Boro win the UEFA Cup in two weeks time that will make MacClaren the most successfull English manager for the last 20+ years.

Let's face it we've had managers who have won nothing at any senior level as a manager since 1990 apart from Venables and they include Taylor, Keegan & Hoddle.

Personnaly I don't care if the players like MacClaren or not. Al tthey have to do is respect him. if you'd have asked me 2 weeks ago I'd have gone for Allardyce, but when you take into account Boro's performance last night, MacClaren must have to be considered, as he is obviously doing something right.

I'd go for MacClaren - He'd be cheaper probably and more passionate.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2006, 08:04:43 PM »

It could well now be any of those names mentioned as listening to the radio news on the way home from work tonight they made an announcement that Scolari has now withdrawn his application for the England manager/coaches job and has turned the offer down.

It's probably because the F.A. have only offered him £2.5million and he's insisting he gets paid at least £5million which is what we're currently paying that Swedish twat.

The strange thing is that Scolari is only being paid something like £750.000 as Portugals manager/coach at the moment.
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2006, 09:11:13 PM »

ABSOLUTE DISGRACE AND STILL THE TW.T WONT SIGN CAUSE THE GREEDY B.....D WANTS MORE CASH !!!!!!

TELL HIM TO F.....OFF AND LETS HAVE AN ENGLISHMAN  IN CHARGE  !!!!!

TO WIN THE WORLD CUP WITH A FORIEGNER IS HOLLOW , ARE WE THAT F.....G DESPERATE ????

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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 07:33:06 AM »

I think it's more because the FA have tried to bully him into taking the job because they realise our candidates aren't up to it. Why else would a story get "leaked" about Barwick going out to Portugal? Scolari had the sense to see the media frenzy and decide against it. I can't get angry about that. Please not Fat Samuele Alladyci though :(
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Re: England - It's just like watching Brazil ?????
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 10:51:51 AM »

I'm still trying to imagine what sort of person would respect Ian Wright :-o
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