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Tony Kessell

17 (42.5%)

Jamie Coyle

1 (2.5%)

Steve Norman

2 (5%)

Adam Flanagan

5 (12.5%)

Richard Avery

1 (2.5%)

Alex O'Brien

2 (5%)

Ryan Hayes

0 (0%)

Junior Kadi

0 (0%)

Brendon Cass

5 (12.5%)

Eddie McClements

1 (2.5%)

Mark Green

5 (12.5%)

Yohance Lewis (Sub)

0 (0%)

Tom Bradbrook (Sub)

0 (0%)

Brad Potter (Sub)

1 (2.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Voting closed: October 27, 2007, 09:15:37 AM

[spike]

I have no intention oif getting drawn into a debate with 2 or 3 nicotine obsessed half-wits who probably couldn't see what was going on anyway, what with all that smoke in their eyes. On the Hornchurch site perhaps, but on here their views are not important. 

I think its fair to say that any sensible observer would admit that the scoreline flattered our opponents. For the most part, we played quite well last night and but for the width of the post and crossbar we could have got something from the game. I do feel sorry for Eddie McLements who seems to be moved about all over the place (3 positions last night) to accomodate lesser mortals. For my money he is easily our best central midfield player and I wish we could see him there more often. I must admit I'm still waiting for Kadi to live up to expectations at the moment. He was excellent against Lewes in the pre-season friendly, but I thought he played most of that game out wide so I have been surprised to see him in the central role instead of Eddie. On current form, if I were picking the team for Saturday I would be tempted to leave Kadi on the bench and play ...

                 Kessell

Coyle, Guest, Flanagan, Norman

Hayes, McLements, O'Brien, Green

                Cass, May

Having said that, I can see that Kadi has class and I suppose there's a case for "playing him in" until he finds his feet and starts to gel a bit more with his team-mates. Assuming Jay plays, deciding which of the 5 midfielders to leave out is going to be a tough decision. I suspect though that when TB picks from a full squad, the team would be as above but with Kadi inside, Eddie out wide and Greeny on the bench. Strange how a couple of weeks ago we were so short in midfield.

In any case, to get back to last night's game we have to accept that they took their chances and we didn't so good luck to them in the next round and lets all move on. From our point of view, we were never going to win the FA Trophy anyway so lets now concentrate on what's important ... winning promotion.

[The Duke]

dont take uncle urchin too seriously boys as he is also a " star poster " on the ryman site and enjoys regular wind ups

the one thing that he will never do is shake OUR belief in OUR team and even though we lost yesterday[ fact] we still clapped and cheered our team off

for more important to us is to get 6 points from potters bar and tilbury and yesterday was just another cup day

nothing further to say other than if hornchurch visit us again then please leave the idiots at home [ same ones who called us ,,,,,  on saturday ??] and bring the decent fans who are always welcome

hope you do o kat wimbledon on saturday  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

UP THE DARETS

[The Duke]

my last post before spikes last

re the team

 - dont agree !!!!!!!

ryno and eddie are 2 of my favourite players but currently ryno is struggling due to his injury and lack of match fitness and eddie , by his high standards
[ although he works his b...s off ] has been a yard off the pace  AND to leave kadi on the bench is crazy as he is essential to us palying football, suggest you watch him off the bal lfor a few minutes

also there is a case for giving yoyo lewis a full 90 minutes [ probably ion a meaningless league cup game ??] as he looks and natural winger and greenie for all his endeaver isnt  !!!!!!!!!

I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OVER LAST MONTH TO BELIEVE WE CAN MOUNT A PROMOTION CHALLENGE

UP THE DARTS

[Gary C]

The scoreline flattered AFC Hornchurch but the better side on the night won. However, I do think that Hornchurch could have cranked it up a gear if we had scored.

We looked lacklustre at times, and lacking ideas. It's certainly no cause for panic yet though - they're the sort of side who will go away from home and do a job. We need to concentrate on what we're doing which is the league - lets get ourselves together, regroup and iron out the problems.

[PaulD]

For info

The broken advertising hording was broken before the game and picked up in the pre-match inspection, it was taped together, no one broke it on the night.

The club are looking at ways of re-enforcing the boarding, but absolutely no problems from the Hornchurch guys in that area.

Cheers

Paul

[HITCHIN DART]

I think the better side won on the night. Hornchurch a little bit quicker, sharper more incisive but not by much. Dartford midfield scrapped and battled but as in the Bromley game that little bit of extra class from the opposition shone through...eventually.

We probably have enough to beat most teams in our league but if we do go up we need to revamp the midfield as at the moment it is not good enough for the higher leagues/teams.

However not all doom and gloom if we concentrate on this season we should feel confident that we can compete and beat any side in Ryman Di1 north

[MrGaz10]

Time for the rose tinted specs to come off and deliver some home truths. I care about the club and dont want to offend individuals either playing or managing as they have had a huge impact on our development to this point but its now about moving forward. Having left the choir and watched the last two games from a neutral position theres a few things to say... 

We created chances against a mid table premier side but they always had enough in the tank to step it up a gear, we didn't. The tactics are not working - when we follow the instructions from the bench we hit it long and chase - it does not work and its got even less chance of working when Jay is not playing! Maybe we will go up this year but how many of the current squad can honestly cut it at the next level?? Kess, Flannagan, Coyle, Eddie and Cassie. Not including Kadi in that list because he had two games to show he had the ability to play against good sides and it didn't happen - too many flicks and tricks and bloody suicidal balls across to full backs that get cut out and put us under pressure. The bigger impact of Kadi is forcing eddie to play in any postion other than his best one - no wonder he is off the pace. Dont know if the Alex Ob story is true but his distribution last night was awful and I would drop him and allow eddie to play in the middle. Ryno - not buying the unfit stories I'm afraid - the truth is that the defenders at bromley and Hornchurch sussed him out - cover the left foot and then and stand watch him cut inside EVERY time. From the sideline you could here them telling each other what he was going to do! I felt the ref did ok - everytime the keeper wasted time he stopped the watch and clearly indicated that he had done so. Maybe the game would have been different if the ball had sneaked in for us but they did deserve the win - far more clinical. It hurts to admit that but it needs to be said.

A previous poster mentioned falling crowds - lets not bury our heads in the sand - maybe they are better than the old days but they are half of what we had a year ago and people from last season are obviously staying away - as for the reasons thats for another thread but the quality of football has got to be one of them. The worst thing about last night was seeing our fans stream out at 3-0 down - for all our talk, only the choir stayed to support the boys till the death, just the same as most other teams we go to. Thought the noise was down in the second half and heard more of the Urchins than the choir (Not a dig just an observation). 

I'll be back in the choir on Sat and will be going to specsavers beforehand for some new rose tinted glasses (Buy one get one free if anyone wants the other pair!). As a parting shot - I wonder how Jay May feels right now? Provacation or not - a silly reaction cost us a potential attacking threat in our biggest games. Oh and Duke - I agree - When will Yo-yo get 90 minutes to prove himself. COYD.

[uncle urchin]

For info

The broken advertising hording was broken before the game and picked up in the pre-match inspection, it was taped together, no one broke it on the night.

The club are looking at ways of re-enforcing the boarding, but absolutely no problems from the Hornchurch guys in that area.

thank you Paul..we have the same problem at the Bridge and in fact I am just about to go down there now and replace two hoardings before saturdays big FA Cup game...all banter aside our fans aint a bad lot and follow their team through thick and thin...sometimes hoardings do get knocked off in the excitement of a goal being scored....

I'm off to the team bath forum now to have a little 'chat' with their lot before saturday so will leave you guys in peace...many thanks for the warm welcome last night and well done over the two games....you have a great set of fans and a very nice stadium.....the future is bright for you....

Unc & Co

[rambo]

in response to mainly mrgaz10 i didnt go to either of the hornchurch games so i am not really commenting on that as such.however when you play teams from a higher level you run the risk of being outplayed or outscored which can lead to unneccarsary dissapointment and then the words  and feelings that follow.
there is no point debating who can play at a higher level when you dont know when you will reach the next level.the fact is we are playing only one level above the kent league and that is why many of our players have limitations.the fact that we have some players that some people think can play at a higher level  is a credit to the thinking of the club.if you want to watch a  club that would find it a miracle to cope at the next level up take a look at waltham forest, waltham abbey and ilford etc.
give me league success any day,at least when you play teams from your own division you know what to expect and we have won 3 of our last 4 in the league and i see no reason why the squad we have doesnt win at least the next 3 league games
happy days are here again , i can barely contain my  enthusiam waiting for the next league game to come and i havnt felt like this since the peter taylor days

[MrGaz10]

I take your point Rambo but Hornchurch are only one league above and are in the position we hope to reach next season. Its my understanding that they still have a number of players that won them OUR league last year. Just trying to match standards and realistic ambition. If we do go up (and I hope we do) will we really clear out and buy all new players or will we need to rely on the bulk of the current squad?

[serious sid]

I take your point Rambo but Hornchurch are only one league above and are in the position we hope to reach next season. Its my understanding that they still have a number of players that won them OUR league last year. Just trying to match standards and realistic ambition. If we do go up (and I hope we do) will we really clear out and buy all new players or will we need to rely on the bulk of the current squad?

You are absolutely right MrGaz10.  Most of our squad is the same this season.  We ran away with Ryman North last year and won by 20 odd points.  There is quite a gap in class between the Prem and Ryman North.  Last season when we played a Prem side we had to try and raise our game and demand extra effort from the lads.  This season we have to summon that effort every week.  There are no weak teams in the Prem. - just look at the league table.  Don't under estimate the challenge.  Good luck in your quest for promotion.

[Eagle 105]

Time for the rose tinted specs to come off and deliver some home truths. I care about the club and dont want to offend individuals either playing or managing as they have had a huge impact on our development to this point but its now about moving forward. Having left the choir and watched the last two games from a neutral position theres a few things to say... 

We created chances against a mid table premier side but they always had enough in the tank to step it up a gear, we didn't. The tactics are not working - when we follow the instructions from the bench we hit it long and chase - it does not work and its got even less chance of working when Jay is not playing! Maybe we will go up this year but how many of the current squad can honestly cut it at the next level?? Kess, Flannagan, Coyle, Eddie and Cassie. Not including Kadi in that list because he had two games to show he had the ability to play against good sides and it didn't happen - too many flicks and tricks and bloody suicidal balls across to full backs that get cut out and put us under pressure. The bigger impact of Kadi is forcing eddie to play in any postion other than his best one - no wonder he is off the pace. Dont know if the Alex Ob story is true but his distribution last night was awful and I would drop him and allow eddie to play in the middle. Ryno - not buying the unfit stories I'm afraid - the truth is that the defenders at bromley and Hornchurch sussed him out - cover the left foot and then and stand watch him cut inside EVERY time. From the sideline you could here them telling each other what he was going to do! I felt the ref did ok - everytime the keeper wasted time he stopped the watch and clearly indicated that he had done so. Maybe the game would have been different if the ball had sneaked in for us but they did deserve the win - far more clinical. It hurts to admit that but it needs to be said.

A previous poster mentioned falling crowds - lets not bury our heads in the sand - maybe they are better than the old days but they are half of what we had a year ago and people from last season are obviously staying away - as for the reasons thats for another thread but the quality of football has got to be one of them. The worst thing about last night was seeing our fans stream out at 3-0 down - for all our talk, only the choir stayed to support the boys till the death, just the same as most other teams we go to. Thought the noise was down in the second half and heard more of the Urchins than the choir (Not a dig just an observation). 

I'll be back in the choir on Sat and will be going to specsavers beforehand for some new rose tinted glasses (Buy one get one free if anyone wants the other pair!). As a parting shot - I wonder how Jay May feels right now? Provacation or not - a silly reaction cost us a potential attacking threat in our biggest games. Oh and Duke - I agree - When will Yo-yo get 90 minutes to prove himself. COYD.

have you missed Jay May Guesty and Steve Norman

[Kentish Man]

I take your point Rambo but Hornchurch are only one league above and are in the position we hope to reach next season. Its my understanding that they still have a number of players that won them OUR league last year. Just trying to match standards and realistic ambition. If we do go up (and I hope we do) will we really clear out and buy all new players or will we need to rely on the bulk of the current squad?

It's difficult to answer this, if we do go up I think we would need 2 or 3 better players, Maidstone have struggled this season after being promoted.
 

[MrGaz10]

Jay - possibly but lacks the quality first touch needed at a higher level (yes I know bigger teams are looking) how many times does he kill a ball dead? Guesty - maybe but needs to focus - remember last season with him and avery switching off for silly goals. Looks better when playing with flannagan. Norman - solid at our standard - not convinced at the next level. Would see him as a squad/fill in player. Would like to see greenie get a game at left back - am I right in thinking its his natural position?

[Kentish Man]

Jay - possibly but lacks the quality first touch needed at a higher level (yes I know bigger teams are looking) how many times does he kill a ball dead? Guesty - maybe but needs to focus - remember last season with him and avery switching off for silly goals. Looks better when playing with flannagan. Norman - solid at our standard - not convinced at the next level. Would see him as a squad/fill in player. Would like to see greenie get a game at left back - am I right in thinking its his natural position?

Green does seem to be the fall guy gets taken off every game if he is playing well or not.