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Andy Young

8 (12.5%)

Billy Burgess

0 (0%)

Adam Gross

6 (9.4%)

John Beales

0 (0%)

Jamie Coyle

5 (7.8%)

Danny Dafter

3 (4.7%)

Ryan Hayes

2 (3.1%)

Ryan Johnson

1 (1.6%)

Rob Haworth

0 (0%)

Elliot Bradbrook

9 (14.1%)

Danny Harris

24 (37.5%)

James White (Sub)

0 (0%)

Adam Burchell (Sub)

2 (3.1%)

Lee Noble (Sub)

4 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 63

Voting closed: February 05, 2010, 11:58:54 PM

[DA Mikey]

Sorry to 'slag him off' in some of your books, but Ryan Hayes does bottle challenges, especially aerial ones - that's a fact not an opinion. This doesn't mean he's not a good player - the best players in the world have holes in their game and although Ryno remains one of my favourites at DFC, he had a stinker yesterday. You wouldn't have heard anything other than encouragement from me last night though rambo.

[Mad Mod]

We didn't play well, we lost, we move on.

Too much is expected of certain players and criticism is often over the top where other players are spared. For those that moan quite vocally at Ryan Hayes - BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. I totally agree with Rambo as usual. If we had players that are consistently brilliant flair players, we would be Manchester United.

Our support was worse than our performance and may be a factor in our defeat. What has happened to the away-day jolliness -  win, lose or draw?

Some people need to learn to accept defeat gracefully - we have no God-given right to win every game. But we will win most...

[ozymandias]

We're still 10 points clear with two or three games in hand. I said that Billericay are playing well and are in a false position. But it sounds as though they didn't have to play well to beat us. Tough game on Saturday, could have done without Sutton, but it sounds as if every game is going to be hard.
See you,
UTD

[Harry]

Without being at the game, this result is clearly and most dissapointing result to date, but as mentioned in earlier posts we don't have the right to turn up and win every game. If we are dissapointed, then the players will no doubt feel the same. They will know on paper and on form the game should have been won.

So now it is on to Saturday and a reaction from the players is needed!

[Ken Shabby]

I'll agree that everyone is entitled to their point of view, and more so on here, but at the games themselves, getting on the players backs on a bad night never ever helps the situation. You have to assume that we all want the best for the team, and to be honest, those who become frustrated beyond endurance by one of our players inability to play should consider a beer or three in the bar.
   Apart from that, time to pick ourselves up and win on saturday, ugly if needs be. We're top of the league and comments to the contrary not withstanding, most teams are looking to get a play off berth rather than catch us. Lets get nasty.

[spagbol]

well said k k k ken-and lets get vocal too.And although the Ultras are brilliant imho they are the reason the choir have fallen silent.We're guilty of enjoying their antics so much we 've taken a back seat.Now,how about a match long sing -off between us ,especially on saturday.

[The 5th Searcher]

you are 100% correct dj john.yesterday we spoke about not slagging players off but it seems acceptable to slag off ryno.in my book saying he was bottling out of challenges is slagging off and quite a few people second these comments.out of order or what.i wish i had seen the game.ryan hayes is a wonderful player and people will only realise how good he is when he moves on at which time we will probably have a team with no flair in it.
this season we have been a fantastic team but even this season we would be struggling if we did not have his goals and assists.
the flair player cannot have a great game every week.take lennon or young at spurs and villa.how many times a season do their direct efforts influence the result of a game.i bet less than ryan hayes does for us.
when he is not playing well it is up to other players to take responsibilty and raise their game a little

Saying that Ryno was bottling out of challenges rambo is not slagging him off it was a clear FACT, nothing out of order with that at all, that is what he did lastnight and at times could've got himself badly hurt. If you watch his game it's very very rare for Ryno to actually challenge for a header in the air and even more rare for him to actually win the header if he does jump for the ball. Yes Ryno is a very good player and when he turns on the style he can be exceptional but when he's out of the game he can also be a complete & utter nightmare who can cause the team more problems than good.

Only Tony can decide as to what to do with him and us fans can just vent our frustrations out on here and sometimes at the games as well as give praise and chant his name when he's doing well.. Yes players do need to have support and fully deserve it at times but they have to realise that if they have the kind of game that they did lastnight then they have to expect some kind of reaction from the fans. We can't all live in a rose tinted specticle world now can we.

[The 5th Searcher]

We didn't play well, we lost, we move on.

Too much is expected of certain players and criticism is often over the top where other players are spared. For those that moan quite vocally at Ryan Hayes - BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. I totally agree with Rambo as usual. If we had players that are consistently brilliant flair players, we would be Manchester United.

Our support was worse than our performance and may be a factor in our defeat. What has happened to the away-day jolliness -  win, lose or draw?

Some people need to learn to accept defeat gracefully - we have no God-given right to win every game. But we will win most...

After reading all of the posts so far i can't see any that haven't accepted that we actually lost the game or even that we lost gracefully it's the way the team played and some of the players performances that have been mentioned.

I think virtually everyone in the ground lastnight must have thought that Billericay deserved the win and was by far the better side on the night.

[TheLastDictator]

Better side?  Maybe.  By far the better side?  No chance.

[blackadams]

It is not a coincedence that our two league defeats have coincided with Ryans poorest performances. We have become over reliant on his creativity to make things happen. I cannot understand why he continually cuts back inside - surely to keep the fullback honest he must take him on down the line, preferably early in the game. At some points last night he ran into three players.

[HantsDart]

Hayes nearly always cuts back inside.  Despite his undoubted creativity, it is a flaw in his game that decent full backs soon work out.  We've known this for years and it's probably the reason why he is still playing in the Ryman League.  He can take on full backs on the outside but appears to prefer not to.

But I don't think it's fair to say that "It is not a coincedence that our two league defeats have coincided with Ryans poorest performances".  That puts all the blame on one player and absolves the rest.  IMO it's just not as simple as that.

[The Fist]

I think the problem with Ryno is that he has set a very high standard for himself. Fans expect him to take the ball round 3 players and do something special, when he doesn't deliver or plays poorly the (minority) of fans will show their frustration. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just the way it is.

[TREVOR B]

Martin said

Some people need to learn to accept defeat gracefully - we have no God-given right to win every game. But we will win most

...

For those that moan quite vocally at Ryan Hayes - BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

Martin, as we know each other and stood close during the game and just in case this was a pop at me along with loads more fans I will respond in their defence as well as my own.

Having accepted more defeats than most gracefully during well over 50 years of supporting the Darts, hence why I keep coming back, by the time I get home from the match the win or loss is forgotten and it's a case of I can't wait for the next match to come along.(Thank heaven for Tuesday & Saturday games these days)

I make no apology for hinting at, but not naming Ryno's performance on here and do so not for personal pleasure or to de-motivate the player,(if he reads it) but to enlighten those fans who might listen in on or read the Forums services during the game.(There was no internet in the old days just  a catch up on comments down the pub or at the next game)

Having not had the pleasure of using either form of communication, as I have been to the matches (and both I'm sure provide a first class service as I do read the postings) I doubt that they mention very often the performances of a particular player on a bad day for him.

For those in contact with the Forum during the game they would probably not be aware that Ryno did have a bad day and I  for one do not expect a Ryman Premier soon to be Conference South player to put in a Sunday parks performance, without some comments being passed on the Forum.

He should probably have been substituted, but we all know why Tony left him on, because he is the one player in the team  who at any given moment, whether being encouraged or slated, can conjure up a moment of magic and either score or provide the opportunity for others to benefit from his brilliance.(We have seen it so many times)

So never doubt my opinion of Ryno I know he can do it, but when he doesn't, then expect some form of comment from me at the game or on the Forum, because if he does rise through the leagues it can only get worse and he will eventually read it in the papers both for private and footballing performances much as a certain Mr Terry and others have found.

I KNOW WHAT I WISH FOR and it is probably the wish of the majority of fans, that if Ryno is selected for Saturday then we will all be behind him from the start praying he has a good game.

Which means providing us with the Ryno we all love, going outside the full back as well as cutting back, getting in those telling crosses, scoring from the most unlikely positions, tackling back to help the defence, getting stuck in.

That's The Ryno we all want , but of late we have seen his other side and he has a point to prove to us all and no doubt Saturday might just be the game for him to do it. 

[Mad Mod]

It is not a coincedence that our two league defeats have coincided with Ryans poorest performances. We have become over reliant on his creativity to make things happen. I cannot understand why he continually cuts back inside - surely to keep the fullback honest he must take him on down the line, preferably early in the game. At some points last night he ran into three players.

defeats when ryno plays poorly... Shows what an important player he is then, runs into 3 players - I have also noticed that some teams put 3 players on him. That is the respect he has gained in this league. As for bottling challenges - good he's a winger a non-league winger. You'll find few pro wingers that can tackle let alone non league. Plus I could be wrong but wasn't he on a booking?

When I spooke about gracefully accepting defeat, I was not referring to posts but to reactions by individuals after the game. I will not elaborate on here but I'm glad they got wet.

[TREVOR B]

Morning Martin have a good day